First off I like your press surround, pretty clever. As far as press goes I've always been a little unclear on the bar measurement. My experience with commercial presses is they keep a constant pressure. As the grapes are pressed the pressure drops and the commercial presses monitor this drop adding air to maintain the selected setting. The press last 20-30 minutes then the drum is rolled for the second of 3 cycles. There is still wine produced at the third cycle with the same pressure. It's a lot easier with a commercial rolling drum than with our bladder or basket presses.Update: Press Day
I had a successful press, but not one without incident. More on that later...
You can see from the pictures, how I set things up. I pressed the Petit Verdot first so I could pump the free run to a stainless container. I needed the fermentor to pump the Cab Franc into after I cleaned it. Cab Franc was second and last was the Petite Sirah.
The free run of the PV was just that and whatever was produced at 1/4 bar. Yield was 30 gallons free run and 6 gallons press. Press was at 1 bar.
The free run of the CF was just that and whatever was produced at 1 bar. Yield was 52 gallons free run, 6 gallons press and 5 gallons Rose'.
The free run of the PS was just that and whatever was produced at 1/4 bar. Yield was 35 gallons free run and 7 gallons press. Press was 1/2 bar first fermenter and 1 bar for second.
My motivation on keeping both the PV and PS at such a low pressure for the press is all about tannins. Those varieties are plenty tannic and I did not want to extract anymore from pressing too hard. HOWEVER, you'll notice in the pictures that the PS at only 1/2 bar did not create a dense enough cake so when I lifted up the cage, the pomace fell everywhere. A little bit of mess but I got it cleaned up. Lesson learned...
All in all, the press was fun, educational and most importantly, a success. I'll let these guys settle out until Sunday at which time I'll transfer off the gross less, get under airlock and add the bacteria (CH16).
After press brix readings are as follows:
PV: 1 Brix
CF: 0 Brix
PS: 1 Brix
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Good morning, Fred. As far as I know, 3 bar equates to 40 pounds of pressure.First off I like your press surround, pretty clever. As far as press goes I've always been a little unclear on the bar measurement. My experience with commercial presses is they keep a constant pressure. As the grapes are pressed the pressure drops and the commercial presses monitor this drop adding air to maintain the selected setting. The press last 20-30 minutes then the drum is rolled for the second of 3 cycles. There is still wine produced at the third cycle with the same pressure. It's a lot easier with a commercial rolling drum than with our bladder or basket presses.
I probably waist more time than it's worth but my first press takes quite a while as I'll get the press to say 1 bar and sit there constantly adjusting the valve to maintain as close to 1 bar as I can. Once I get it to maintain 1 bar I call it quits. I don't often do 3 cycles but once I remove, fluff and reload the skins after the first press there is still a considerable (at least percentage wise) at the 1 bar pressure. The skins actually come out quite dry even at my standard 1 bar press.
Thoughts anyone?
In the future you might, after reserving pressings at whatever levels you chose, do a harder press on the remainder and segregate that wine. I understand your concern regarding excess tannin; however, the final pressings may be valuable for blending into low tannin wines.HOWEVER, you'll notice in the pictures that the PS at only 1/2 bar did not create a dense enough cake so when I lifted up the cage, the pomace fell everywhere. A little bit of mess but I got it cleaned up. Lesson learned...
Bryan, that's a very good point. Last night, in celebration, I had a Carignan wine that I made last year. Although very good, I was wishing it had a few tannins to interact with my tongue.In the future you might, after reserving pressings at whatever levels you chose, do a harder press on the remainder and segregate that wine. I understand your concern regarding excess tannin; however, the final pressings may be valuable for blending into low tannin wines.
Keep in mind I'm a cheap SOB and have a hard time throwing anything out until I've gotten everything I can from it.
That's right, equipment helps. I started at a little before 1pm (12:50p) and finished cleaning everything and putting everything away by 5:20pm.I'm amazed that you do this single handedly, having the right tools helps, but still.... impressive
Thanks, @CDrew - I'll splash rack tonight, thereby blending both containers and refill like they are now. I'll also retest to see the outcome of the SR and the blend. Should be interesting. Any predictions?Yikes. I'd wait for sure. No sense stressing out the MLB, and you want to make sure the H2S problem is solved. I'd probably concentrate on that. For instance, if you splash rack, the added O2 will lower the SO2 level. Your idea of reblending also sounds like it would work.
Any predictions?
Last year, I did a dual yeast with Prelude/Avante on a few wines. This year, I wanted to experiment a bit and found the Harmony. Here's the description:Haha:
After a vigorous splash rack and blending your free SO2 measurement will be 17.
When do you want the admonishment about your containers of "powders"? Hospitals went through this 20 years ago. Almost everything has it's own unique shape and color and the truly dangerous stuff has been removed to the pharmacy.
Also, I thought you were using Renaissance yeasts. I read back and saw this was a Chris Hansen Harmony yeast. What was the thinking there? It sounds interesting, but H2S is NOT interesting!
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