Thoughts and prayers to Franklin Regional

[vernsgal]

Without getting political, this is what happens when we absolve everyone of responsibility and accountability for thier actions. Maybe if we taught some morality and respect in school, this wouldn't happen.

This is what I'm saying, except it should be taught at home 1st and foremost.
We can't expect the schools to be responsible for teaching our kids everything.

 

[Runningwolf]

As this school is app. 5 miles from my house and I have a fraternity brother that is a teacher at Franklin, I was concerned that this is literally in my back yard. Our nieghborhood police and ambulance responded to this.

Hey Bill was this Franklin School down near rt322 in Cranberry or in south of Pittsburgh in Monroville?

 

[Hokapsig]

Hey Bill was this Franklin School down near rt322 in Cranberry or in south of Pittsburgh in Monroville?

Dan we are about 26 miles ESE of pittsburgh and about 5 miles east of Monroeville off of route 22.

I do agree that respect and accountability should be taught at home. However, I think it should not be hindered in the schools also. Let's teach the RIGHT things in home and in the schools. As much as political correctness makes us feel good, it's not the real world. Let's prepare our kids for surviving the real world.

I also feel bad for the parents of the kid that did the act. The father left his home and family in the morning to go to work, and came home to his own family and many other families devastated. The son that he left that morning will now be a long term prisoner. Students that should be worry about the prom and graduation are worried about surviving and healing.

 

[Runningwolf]

Bill I don't know why but I always thought you lived closed to Butler. I see it on the map now. As you mentioned there are always many victims besides the injured.

 

[Julie]

Bill, you seem to be under the thought that what is taught at school will be re-inforced at home. That is so far from the truth. How do you expect schools to teach morals that are not supported at home?

 

[Runningwolf]

This is what I'm saying, except it should be taught at home 1st and foremost.
We can't expect the schools to be responsible for teaching our kids everything.

I agree with you and Julie. The parents are the front line in teaching the kids moral, respect and responsibility. The schools are their to reinforce and enhance what the kids should have learned at home. It was certainly that way when I was growing up. God help us if we ever got in trouble in school or even at a friends house.

How many kids have a structured home life in regards to meals, homework, CHORES (what's that), free time, bed time, tv,family time, etc..

 

[JohnT]

Dan,

I know that this is a little off topic.....

You mention "Free Time".

My father felt that kids should not have too much free time and I agree with him. We were raised to work hard. At the end of summer, school was like a vacation! I simply did not have a whole lot of time to get into too much trouble.

There is a lot of "Idle hands is the devil's workshop." Having a part time / after school job was not a privilege, but was expected.

I also think that a lot of kids have no clue on the meaning of a dollar. Too much is given to kids and not enough is earned BY the kids. Need $200.00 for sneakers, here you go. Need a new car, here you go. need money for spring break, here you go.

 

[Hokapsig]

Julie,

In my world, what is taught in the home should be re-inforced in the school, and vice versa. This incorrectly assumes that what is taught in the home and in the school are complimentary. This is not the case in my experience. When we got a call from the school informing us of our child's behavior which was not acceptable, we investigated the behavior and dealt with the child. The behavior was not repeated. The child learned where the line was and to not cross the line. Too many times, children do not know where the line is. Too many times today, either the parents or the schools move the line so that the child is confused. Reinforcement of the line teaches the child right from wrong. When the line is crossed, the child must be immediately returned to the other side of the line. If not, the child has established a new line.

When we were young, the punishment was severe for crossing the line, hence the line was not crossed often. This is not true today. No reprecussions for crossing the line. Too much "do what feels good" and not enough line enforcement by both parents and teachers.

 

[Boatboy24]

Some parents will get a call/note from the school saying something like this: "Your child was in an altercation and was hit in school/day care today. We don't believe there was any harm caused, but as there was physical contact, we need to let you know." I think many parents today first go to "How could you let this happen to my little angel!!?? Who did this?? Why was more supervision not provided? That other kid needs to be removed from my little angel's class!" A generation ago, the response was more like: "Is he allright? OK, Good. Did he deserve it?" Too many kids these days are raised to think they can do no wrong and that the world owes them something. When they don't get that which they think the world owes them, they feel they are within their rights to strike out against it.

 

[tonyt]

Julie,

In my world, what is taught in the home should be re-inforced in the school, and vice versa. This incorrectly assumes that what is taught in the home and in the school are complimentary. This is not the case in my experience. When we got a call from the school informing us of our child's behavior which was not acceptable, we investigated the behavior and dealt with the child. The behavior was not repeated. The child learned where the line was and to not cross the line. Too many times, children do not know where the line is. Too many times today, either the parents or the schools move the line so that the child is confused. Reinforcement of the line teaches the child right from wrong. When the line is crossed, the child must be immediately returned to the other side of the line. If not, the child has established a new line.

When we were young, the punishment was severe for crossing the line, hence the line was not crossed often. This is not true today. No reprecussions for crossing the line. Too much "do what feels good" and not enough line enforcement by both parents and teachers.

THE FOLLOWING IS MEANT TO BE HUMERUS ALLEGORY.
The School = U.S Administration
The Child = Iran, Russia, Syria and so on
The Parent = American People
The Line = U.S. Foreign Policy