Other Tweeking Cheap Kits

[joeswine]

Good to here all's well, what I want to try next kit, if it's a white add red star Champaign yeast , a small great fpac and ec1118 that will come with the kit.
The Champaign yeast will add real depth of flavor and the ec1118 will power through the fermentation.
Think outside the box.

 

[RocketBee]

Too late to add the Red Star to my SB kit? Pitched the EC-1118 yesterday afternoon.

 

[joeswine]

If you see a kit and there's a lot more of the better kits doing this or you want to make a cheaper kit all it can be than look for a complementary yeast to go with the power yeast ,it works.

 

[joeswine]

You know if you can't think outside the box then you've Left the fun of wine making behind.
Just a thought

 

[sour_grapes]

bumping for my convenience

 

[rca]

If you see a kit and there's a lot more of the better kits doing this or you want to make a cheaper kit all it can be than look for a complementary yeast to go with the power yeast ,it works.

Any recommendations for complimentary yeasts with reds?

I've got a Merlot kit coming up.

 

[GaDawg]

You know if you can't think outside the box then you've Left the fun of wine making behind.
Just a thought

Joe, I’ve made kits by the book, and tweaked some and both are fun! If I never tweaked another kit, I would still have fun!

 

[ithink2020]

If you see a kit and there's a lot more of the better kits doing this or you want to make a cheaper kit all it can be than look for a complementary yeast to go with the power yeast ,it works.

@joeswine What're your thoughts on staggering the yeasts? Start the batch with Yeast A, then after 24-36 hours, pitch Yeast B?

 

[joeswine]

Here you go, Joe:

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Other Tweeking Cheap Kits

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making a fpac

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Thinking outside the box

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Behind the scenes

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[joeswine]

yes, I don't see why you can't I don't know why you would. to RCA
Lavin rc212,good abv, tolerance and has a enhanced varietal characteristic's, along with the ec1118 which is neutral sensory effects and abv. tolerance to 18% abv,
I've done this before with good results ,and have done this with whites more often than not using Champagne yeast for softer notes. You need to want to try that's all, if not don't .

 

[joeswine]

I thought I posted this reply,???? if you do both at once it give both yeast time to recognize each other and work in harmony. staggering the two should work also as long as its in a very short time frame,. Got it? .. to ITHINK2020

 

[joeswine]

Tweaking cheap wine kits, we're at
370,000 views and still growing.
Slow but steady

 

[Brian55]

2372 comments and 119 pages of mostly word salad. We need to find Joe an editor and start a new thread with the "Cliff Notes" version of "Tweaking Cheap Kits".

 

[RocketBee]

Racked my Sauvignon Blanc at S.G. 1.005 today. Looks good, smells good and tastes good too. Like you said @joeswine a little of that grapefruit zest goes a long way.

 

[joeswine]

I like my word salad , along with a bowl of ask me again with a side of really and for desert fermentation alamode.
NICE,,,..........
..

 

[joeswine]

What are you going to clear it with? What's the plan?

 

[Rocky]

Racked my Sauvignon Blanc at S.G. 1.005 today. Looks good, smells good and tastes good too. Like you said @joeswine a little of that grapefruit zest goes a long way.
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RB, that looks really good. One suggestion. That is more head space at the top than I would be comfortable having. You still have a way to go with fermentation but I suggest racking into a 5 gallon and perhaps a 3 L. bottle if you have one. There is little to no danger of bubbling over in this slow state of fermentation.

 

[Brian55]

What are you going to clear it with? What's the plan?

I'd go with "time" as the primary clearing agent.

 

[joeswine]

Yes, time is your Allie , usually once primary is almost complete I transfer and allow a couple of weeks to sit and vent, then rerack and add the clearing agents . sounds about right?

 

[bstnh1]

RB, that looks really good. One suggestion. That is more head space at the top than I would be comfortable having. You still have a way to go with fermentation but I suggest racking into a 5 gallon and perhaps a 3 L. bottle if you have one. There is little to no danger of bubbling over in this slow state of fermentation.

I always leave the head space until after I degas. Degassing a full 5 gallon carboy is not easy! Many of the kits no longer recommend any topping up unless you're going to do bulk aging. I've left head space like that in the picture for as long as 6 or 7 weeks from the start date with no issue. In RB's case, the SG still has quite a ways to go, so that carboy is well protected by the CO2.