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2011 Château Cormeil-Figeac Saint-Emilion Grand Cru

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That is quite interesting since it sat on the skins for so long. I am sure the wine was not diluted esp since the ABV is 14.5%. Wondering if its the lack of tannins, lack of oak perhaps, or if they manipulated the wine somehow to make it quicker to bottle and thus quicker to drink for more of a mass market (buy it tonight, drink it tonight). Sure seems like it was released on the quick.

The process is known as, Post- Fermentation Maceration, or Extreme Extended Maceration. This increases mouthfeel and softens tannins.

A different yet similar technique that some use to do this is called Delestage.
 
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2011 Stag's Leap Hands of Time red blend.

2011 was a harsh year in Napa. It shows in this wine. You would expect better from Stag's Leap. I'm not a fan.

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I notice a LOT of 2011's wines both CA and WA State in almost every Total Wine I have been in. It's like they have become the dumping grounds for that year. I have had some good ones from WA State from that year but they have a short drinking window (low acids) and most have probably peaked by now.
 
2013 Crossford Creek Cab from Yakima Valley. To me, the acid is just a touch strong. But otherwise, a very enjoyable wine. Anxious to see how it opens up with a little air.

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Miss the info... give us a few tasting notes... and your opinion. :h

Sure. These were my notes.

Tasting Notes:
Inky maroon in color, with a peppery black currant on the nose. On the palate, cranberry, red plum, and smoky leather. Smooth with a late propulsive bite from the semi-stout ABV. (15.8%)

Final Thoughts:
The wine is good, but not "great". The semi-stout ABV is unobtrusive as does not detract from this wine at all. I would say this is a drinking Zinfandel rather than a pairing one.
 
2014 Andrew Rich's Heart's Gate Pinot Noir

Tasting Notes:
A nice ruby color. Pomegranate and cherry on the nose. Flavors of blueberry, red plum, dried fruit with a touch of vanilla. A slight bit tart, medium bodied, with a late acidic pinch at the end that burns off with a little time to breath.

Final Thoughts:
A decent drinkable Pinot Noir. Very little pizzazz and really nothing special. Definitely a negative QPR. I would say it’s priced about $3-$6 above what it should be. ($22US)

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Uncorking this one now will give tasting notes later

Steve
 

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Hahahahahahaha...... I know full well from experience on our tour of OR Pinot Noir's back in 2013. Minimum price for a "good" one was $30 and you had better expect to pay closer to $50 for a really good one. You want OMG Pinot from OR State, that will cost you 2-3X a really good one!
 

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