when good wines gone bad

[corinth]

super Tuscan II

Hi Joe,
So, I am looking for a starting Sg of 1.075 -1.100?
Corinth

 

[joeswine]

Starting sg

THAT IS CORRECT THIS IS A MUCH BETTER STARTING POINT FOR WINE MAKING THEN AT A LESSER STANDARD,YOUR MAKING WINE A MED. BODY RED WITH OAK,THE WINE WILL HAVE A GOOD BALANCE..

 

[joeswine]

Super tuscan

WHILE WERE IN THE PRIMARY I'M GOING TO MOVE THE FIRST PHASE FORWARD FOR REVIEW....

 

[joeswine]

Super tuscan

IN REVIEW.....................

 

[joeswine]

Super tuscan

just a few more frames to go...........

 

[joeswine]

SUPER TUSCAN phase two

finally after 9 days it's ready to move on to the secondary stage.this was a transition that you are going to experience a kit that will put you to work ,almost as close as you will get to a actual crush experience with out real grapes, very cool...take a look ...............there will be sludge in the bottom and floaters on the top,siphon from the middle down, understand? take your grape skins and a deep pot ,using a colander place.. the skins into the colander and squeeze the juice out of them then disguard, add this juice to the base in a clean carboy, then you'll have some left in the bucket screen out what you can and add it to the carboy, don't worry about the sludge you've just added ,we will start a pre -cleaning with the addition of superkleer in the secondary as well as degas at the same time ,this is a awesome kit ,it has every component that you could want in a bottle of wine, take your time ,go slow and stay the course...notice I have my headspace eliminator on ,very cool tool..

 

[joeswine]

Super tuscan

up date.....added the clearing agent and the basic chems that came along with the kit, the taste is good if your allow it to roll all over your mouth you can taste the wines worth at this point. I added wine tannins and a oak round to beef up the acidity, in the next two weeks will take a readings on the PH and see where it's at, other then that the wine will have to mature on it's own ,so far so very good.

 

[wineforfun]

Hi Joe,
So, I am looking for a starting Sg of 1.075 -1.100?
Corinth

You are looking for a starting SG of 1.095-1.100, not 1.075.

 

[joeswine]

Super tuscan

starting sg should be between 1.075 and 1.1o

 

[wineforfun]

starting sg should be between 1.075 and 1.1o

What brand are those instructions from?

Not RJS Winery Series(and if they are, not a newer one) as Corinth mentioned. My instructions that I read, read 1.095-1.100. That is from a 2014 RJS Winery Series Super Tuscan.

With the numbers your instructions for Brand X, the final ABV will be anywhere from 10.5 - 13.0.

Ok, I looked back and see you are comparing apples to oranges, your kit is a WineXpert. Corinth had asked about an RJS, which reads differently.
RJS kits, for the most part, always call for a SG of 1.095-1.100 to start.

 

[sour_grapes]

Hi Joe,
So, I am looking for a starting Sg of 1.075 -1.100?
Corinth

As DJ points out, 1.075 would be low. However, a lot of the sugar is in the grape pack. I just made this very kit. Before adding the grape pack, the SG was 1.078. A day or two after adding the pack, the SG rose to 1.096. (I used a slow-starting yeast, BM45, which gave the sugar some time to dissolve before the SG started declining quickly due to fermentation.)

 

[sour_grapes]

What brand are those instructions from?

Not RJS Winery Series(and if they are, not a newer one) as Corinth mentioned. My instructions that I read, read 1.095-1.100. That is from a 2014 RJS Winery Series Super Tuscan.

With the numbers your instructions for Brand X, the final ABV will be anywhere from 10.5 - 13.0.

DJ, this is the WE LE 2014 Super Tuscan. It looks promising to me so far!! Yum.

 

[joeswine]

Super tuscan

winexpert limited edition super tuscan

 

[geek]

As DJ points out, 1.075 would be low. However, a lot of the sugar is in the grape pack. I just made this very kit. Before adding the grape pack, the SG was 1.078. A day or two after adding the pack, the SG rose to 1.096. (I used a slow-starting yeast, BM45, which gave the sugar some time to dissolve before the SG started declining quickly due to fermentation.)

ditto on the SG for this kit, I made it too.

 

[joeswine]

Super Tuscan

okay lets take it from the top. see the base line sg before grape PAC. After grape PAC and then capitalization potential abv is at 14%..that and the oak and tannins plus the 1/2 cup of raisins in the primary will give this SUPER TUSCAN all it can handle without being over powering .
before capitalization it was at 13% WITH ONE QUART OF SIMPLE SYRUP ADDED IT CAME UP TO 14% SORRY FOR THE PICS CONFUSION.

 

[joeswine]

SUPER TUSCAN phase two

racked twice , added Chems and added fining agent and re-cleared,tasted very nice..still very young but a real winner...............

 

[joeswine]

Super tuscan

LETS RECAP THE SUPER TUSCAN IN REVIEW AT THIS POINT IT'S JUST SITTING I WILL PROBLY BOTTLE IN ONE WEEK ,THAT'S HOW I LIKE IT TO AGE SO THAT I CAN TAKE GOOD TASTE AS NEEDED...FOLLOW THE FLOW..

 

[joeswine]

Super tuscan continued

THE FLOW CONTINUES IF THERE SOMETHING YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT... JUST ASK..

 

[joeswine]

Super tuscan continued

IT'S A LONG READ HAVE PATIENTS....... IT EXTENDS OVER 24 PHOTOS THERE'S A LOT TO DO AND SO LITTLE TIME TO DO IT!

 

[joeswine]

Super tuscan continued

SO FAR SO GOOD AT FIRST TASTING THE BITE WASN'T WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR (NEED MORE ) SO I RACKED DOWN TO A- 5 GALLON CARBOY -WILL DEGAS AT THAT POINT. THE PH WAS AT 3.6 SHOULD BE AT LEAST 4.0 TO .5 WILL LET IT REST, THEN ADD SOME MORE LAYERS OF FLAVOR..