Joan, without having any wine work to do and the forum a little slow due to this time of year I get bored so I know Im getting these wines so I get a head start so that they are done. I just have to make the abv area easy to adjust when I know what it truly is but all the 1's with grape skins from RJS are very consistent with their high abv. I love these new Cellar Classic Winery Series kits and the E.P.