Other Tweeking Cheap Kits

[Christopher Anderson]

Question for Joe: Have you ever bought a Heavy Bodied kit 16 Litters or 4.22 gal and split in half to make a light or medium bodied kit?

 

[joeswine]

No that would be a waste of time .
Mist kits dispite what they read late light to medium body .. adding tannins , grape pack etc can build the structure.
I my tweaking experience you can build up , you can’t build down and still have a wine worth drinking.
Butt that’s just me

 

[Christopher Anderson]

No that would be a waste of time .
Mist kits dispite what they read late light to medium body .. adding tannins , grape pack etc can build the structure.
I my tweaking experience you can build up , you can’t build down and still have a wine worth drinking.
Butt that’s just me

That's what I thought

 

[joeswine]

No that would be a waste of time .
Mist kits dispite what they read late light to medium body .. adding tannins , grape pack etc can build the structure.
I my tweaking experience you can build up , you can’t build down and still have a wine worth drinking.
Butt that’s just me

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[wineview]

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Joe
Does mixing the currents and oak chips directly into the must make it difficult to siphon out. I have always used a muslin straining sock. Is there more extraction by not using a muslin bag?

 

[Ohio Bob]

The bag changes nothing about extraction, but makes it much easier to rack the wine. Keep doing it your way.

 

[joeswine]

Ok here’s my thoughts:
If you allow the components to float at 100% contact akl the time then impact on the batch.
The components should settle to the bottom of the fermenter.
If you place them in a bag , then 100% contact isn’t consistent until you dunk the bag , yes?
So the question is do you make it easier on your self or just draft a little higher than off the bottom ??
It doesn’t matter if your in the primary or secondary the same applies

 

[joeswine]

Tilted helps the flow

 

[Ohio Bob]

If you place them in a bag , then 100% contact isn’t consistent until you dunk the bag , yes?

No that is incorrect. Diffusion occurs when there is a concentration gradient between two environments.

 

[joeswine]

To many big words for me , I only know of my experiences that’s what they asked.
I’ve done it both ways .
See the way I see it is this and I’m a simple man so excuse me .
When they make wine from grapes , they crush the grapes then let the juice and skins macerate for color and structure correct ?
They don’t put the skins in a seperste bag ? The skins sit there for a few days then the wine is pumped out and the skins remove and repackage and sold to us .
In the instructions it states to sprinkle the yeast on top , as well as oak ,
When I make an FPACK it can be put into a sack or spread across and infuse itself with the cap doing it that way has always given my a better product as well as a few wineries in this area.
To each his or her own.

 

[wineview]

Have you ever tried the Fontana kits sold by Amazon?

 

[joeswine]

Yes often , my customers by all of the cheaper kits .Fontana is one of the there all basic kits you just need to pay attention to the yield sometimes it’s less depending on the ABV ..your trying to achieve.
Just made this one

 

[wineview]

I was thinking of trying a Pino Grigio. Typically cheaper white kits are easier to produce a better product. And you can’t beat $71. I would make the kit a five gallon batch. In the review section for this kit, the user stated he added a pound of Belgian Candy to bring the SG up to 1.056. That’s pretty low. Is that why these kits are so cheap?

 

[joeswine]

look I can only tell you what I’ve done.
If you let. Your hydrometer be your guide that’s all you need with cheaper kits or any kit for that matter.
When adding the water up to a five gallon level
Then add or don’t depending on your likes and ABV % ..

 

[joeswine]

If your going todo a pino Grigio don’t forget to add some grapefruit ZEST

 

[wineview]

If your going todo a pino Grigio don’t forget to add some grapefruit ZEST

Did you ever add golden raisins to a white wine?

 

[joeswine]

Did you ever add golden raisins to a white wine?

Never white , but standard reasons (sun maid ) the best to use .
White wines are funny if you look up the taste profile there’s basically fruit and citrus,
Give it a try that’s is what this craft is all about , isn’t it?

 

[wineview]

Would dark raisins change the color in white wine.

 

[joeswine]

I’m not sure , I am sure I wouldn’t use them , but that’s just me

 

[winemaker81]

Would dark raisins change the color in white wine.

Probably. The amount of change depends on the wine and the amount of raisins.

Although this is a kit wine thread, a lesson from white grape wines applies. Last fall I fermented Vidal juice as one batch, and the remainder of the grapes on the skins, producing 2 different wines. The two wines are quite similar, but the on-skins wine has an orange caste to it, and it's heavier bodied. We like it a lot, but it is different from the juice-only wine.

I expect that if you add golden raisins to a white kit, you'll get a similar result, depending on the varietal and the amount of raisins used. Tannin, color, aroma, and body elements will be extracted from the raisins. It's not going to be as heavy bodied as a red, but more so than the typical white.